Reply #21: If that's what the question should be....

[Make7]

...then why did you ask...

• why Popular Mechanics didn't use a photo of the engine in their article?
  
• whether Gene Corley was qualified to identify the airplane parts?
  
• what mapping the trajectory of those parts had to do with proving the airplane that stuck the South Tower had windows?
  
• why Popular Mechanics didn't print anything about Gene Corley having to sign a waiver in order to get the blueprints for the Twin Towers?
  

seatnineb posted:
...... because these firemen certainly think that the plane that flew over Brooklyn hit the south tower......

After the first plane hit the World Trade Center, New York City firefighter Craig Gutkes was part of a ladder company in Brooklyn that was called in to Manhattan. When he was still on the Brooklyn side, his company saw the second plane roar over their heads, “It sounded like a freight train,” he said. They watched that plane plow into Tower No. 2. When he arrived on Liberty Street, “It was like a war zone when we got there. There were body parts all over the street.”

http://www.asne.org/index.cfm?ID=3426 .

Is this the plane they are refering to?

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If the firemen say that the plane that they saw stuck the South Tower and the plane from that video did not strike the South Tower, I would have to conclude that the firemen are not referring to the plane in the video.
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If the video of this plane is something you want to discuss, let's discuss it. But in order to start, I certainly think we need more information than one frame of a video. So maybe you could gather some information to strengthen your argument and give us something to debate. I think the following would be helpful:

• In order to determine the size and position of the plane in the video, it would be beneficial to have a video clip (or even a still photograph) of the plane from a different angle. (This shouldn't be too difficult - as I recall there were quite a few cameras pointed at the Twin Towers at the time.)
  
• Perhaps in your search you could find a video that has a close up of that plane - that would be a good way to verify whether or not it has windows. It may not even be the plane that Mark Birnbach saw, it could be a third plane.
  
• We could determine how close the plane actually came to the Twin Towers if you could identify what kind of plane it is and where the person taking this video footage was located. This probably would also allow us to determine the speed of the plane.

Scared7