Reply #54: This is getting ridiculous

[William Seger]

That photo doesn't show any of the right side of the crater made by the top fuselage -- the part you're so comically trying to ignore -- and the angle makes it hard to tell precisely where the fuselage crater really is. You could hardly pick a worse photo to try to figure out how the plane hit. Was that the intent when you chose it for your diagram, or do you just not understand why you won't figure out anything useful from that photo? The photos I've shown are quite sufficient for most people to understand what happened. Look at the two ariel photos again; it's quite clear where the inverted fuselage hit. Look at the side view again; it's quite clear that the area on the right really is part of the crater, and although you can't see the extreme right edge, you can get a good guess by comparing it to the ariels. If you want to do the same thing with your photo, just trace the line where you think the wing hit the crater and try to guess where it would intersect the axis of the fuselage crater (which you won't really be able to do accurately because the bad angle makes it hard to tell where the fuselage crater really is). From there, draw a line at the angle you think the plane hit. The top of the fuselage would then be a parallel line 10 feet to the right. So, what's your problem? You definitely can't use that photo to refute what I'm saying; it doesn't show the part of the crater you need to see.