Reply #70: I am going to FLIP if I don't get something straight here.

[QuietStorm]

I have to read your whole post including the links - I have read some of it. But I am yet unwilling to discard that there was a CRASH on runway 1-19. Perhaps I am stubborn. Perhaps I am not fully informed.

we need to get in sync, because I have questions that I have asked and I need to understand beyond reasonable doubt. If you do not mind I would like to suggest to some degree you put aside for the moment what you said or what you defended in the past. I need to know we are talking about the same planes, and i need to ascertain this yesterday.

Those people you have now informed me you know may have been disruptors only. There observations useless is what I mean to imply by that.

OKAY....

you are aware that there was an initial report of a crash on runway 1-19 right? I probaby the only one here that refuses to let this initial report go. NOT UNTIL I am clear that there is no way THAT BOEING that some of the eyewits seemed to be describing WAS NOT THE ONE THAT HIT THE PENTAGON, but instead did in fact crash land on runway 1-19 at RRNA.

you are aware (as I have gotten this from your theory BTW) that different witnesses saw different things from different locations. right?

So based on this so far I gather there was a BOEING (perhaps FL 77 we do not know this for sure).

There was a 4 prop smaller plane (is this the plane you feel was the killer plane?

There was a F-16. There was a c-130 (ONLY ONE?)

NOW

we have a BARBARA who speaks of a BOEING flying in the direction of RRNA.

HERE IS HER INTERVIEW....


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=1244&mesg_id=1627&page=


we have a Captain McCoy who called his siting in from the same location BARBARA seems to have seen what seems to be THE BOEING not the four prop but THE BOEING.

HERE IS HIS STATEMENT FROM THE AAAR

there is also a map in the AAAR

According to the AAAR, Flight 77 was observed at 9:37am. It was in a steep descent, banking sharply to its right before it disappeared beyond the horizon, seemingly on a collision course with the pentagon. This observation was made by Captain Steve McCoy and the crew of Engine 101 enroute to a training session in Crystal City, traveling north on 395. One minute later at 9:38am Flight 77 is reported crashed. Apparently this is the official account as it so far has been repeated twice pretty much verbatim.

The second time this account is repeated, it continues on to say that shortly after the plane disappeared it was preceded by a tremendous explosion. However, Captain McCoy was, "unable to pinpoint the precise location". The Captain immediately radioed the Arlington County Emergency Communication Center (ECC) "reporting an airplane crash in the vicinity of the 14th St Bridge or in Crystal City", and advised that the FBI should also be notified."
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This needs to be mapped along with our friend BARBARA. BARBARA alludes to the memorial street exit but there is something in that interview that tells me WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHERE SHE IS CALLING IN FROM... HMMMM... Anyone on board now where the 14th street bridge is in relation to the Memorial street exit? McCoy is on 395. BARABARA ALSO speaks of I395. MEMORIAL STREET AND 14TH STREET BRIDGE is this approximately in the close proximity?

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NOW BASED ON THESE TWO WITNESS it seems to me BOTH are seeing a BOEING (for right now we don't know if it is FL77).

I am of the impression that the damage assessment is TOO SMALL to have accomodated a BOEING but instead it seems to me PERHAPS the 4 prop might suffice as the killer plane IF it can be established. as you say:

"(I will send this to anyone who asks for the SARAH ROBERT'S SMALL-PLANE PROOF PHOTO.) It is proof as conclusive as the missile-smoke-and-missile-explosion photos, as conclusive as the too-short aircraft photo, as conclusive as the contradiction in paths between that of the killer jet as determined by the physical evidence of holes and downed poles and the path of the Boeing that overflew the crash as observed in its approach by witnesses who describe it always in a line over the Sheraton, over the Naval Annex, over the gas station."

IS THIS THE SMALL 4 PROP THAT WAS DOING DIVES AT THE MALL.

It sounds like there are a collection of witnesses that do establish a path for this plan. this is NOT THE BOEING. These witness were they south of the pentagon?

I SEEM TO THINK the path of the BOEING can be estblished from those sitings from THE NORTH of the pentagon ALONG I395. IF THE KILLER PLANE is established by eyewitness accounts and IF THIS PLANE is the smaller plane THERE DOES APPEAR TO HAVE BEEN still the BOEING for which a flight path must be estblished .

I want to explain why there was an initial report of a crash on runway 119 I SEEM TO FEEL the boeing sited by MC COY and this BARBARA is perhaps the BOEING THAT they are describing BARBARA STATES CLEARLY IT SHE ASSUMED IT WAS HEADED FOR A LANDING.

IF THIS PLANES PATH HAS ALREADY BEEN ESTABLISHED I WANT TO KNOW BY WHOM it seems to me this BOEING had to have gone somewhere WHY IS RUNWAY 1-19 not the most likely destination? OR have I got it all wrong and this is, what I am calling the BOEING, the same smaller craft THAT HIT THE PENTAGON?


HERE ARE OTHER THOUGHTS IN THIS SAME AREA I HAVE PLACED TO YOU AS WELL.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=1244&mesg_id=1651&page=

I in the meantime will go over the stuff you placed in your post above. perhaps some of my questions would be answered.