Reply #49: Worthy Of Exhibition-Feigning Ignorance, Shame On You For Selectivity

[Christophera]

I wrote this to describe a normal collapse of structural steel because many people do not know what a normal collapse of structural steel looks like. I'll search for an image as an example, there should be plenty of them that look pretty much as I describe.

Christophera wrote

It is just not reasonable to consider a collapse where the structure turns into sand, gravel and fairly uniform pieces of steel. The only thing that could possibly happen in 15 seconds from plane impacts and fire would be that the tower above impact, topple, or that it slide off to one side. Even then the wreckage would be more of a tangle, still very much connected but bent

LARED wrote

This truly an excellent example of the utter lack of understanding you have about the WTC structure and collapse dynamics.

Typically you do not explain your statement, feigning ignorance, hoping the reader doesn't have a clue, working to mislead them. The towers were overbuilt. What I posted is an explanation of a collapse. You also choose the uniform pieces to mention, the assemblies of the perimeter columns. I should of said, but I'm glad I didn't because you showed your evasion of fact by your selectivity. I was referring to the interior box columns. Full height 100% welded, hand fabricated 1300 foot + box columns located around the outside of the cast concrete core. They were in uniform 40 foot pieces.

LARED wrote

The structure did not turn to sand and or gravel. You have no evidence that is true.

At the bottom is an image that shows the basement full of sand and gravel.

LARED wrote

Your notion that a section toppling or sliding off the top would be more of a tangle, still very much connected but bent up is ridiculous. It truly belies a simplistic understanding of the structure.

Of course you provide no example of collapse that shows zillions of pieces of steel laying around. Mostly because no such example is available. Steel bends and most of its's joints remain connected in a normal collapse. You are just MISLEADING in an effort ot dismiss competent, logical information.

Shame on you. Our dead need justice not support for lies that murderers hide behind.