Reply #103: I never said I thought any laws were suspended, bolo..

[Ghost in the Machine]

AZCat made the claim that "the same laws of physics apply to both scenarios" regarding the plane impact(total disintegration/atomization) with a solid concrete wall in the video as they do with the plane that hit the tower(total penetration).

All I asked was "which laws of physics apply to both scenarios?"... and I asked because I DON'T KNOW, but want to understand. It seems AZCat cannot provide an answer.... unless you consider "I can grab a dime from a jar and flip it in the air, then do the same with a penny" to be an answer. To me, that looks like he's just trying to say "what goes up, must come down",... and that has absolutely NO relevance to this conversation, right?

As I have stated before, I am NOT a physics major, just so we have that out of the way again. You see, what I'm looking at is like this: the video of the test plane represents "irresistible force meets immovable object", the plane hitting the towers represents "mass in motion following the path of least resistance" and Mr AZCat wants to toss coins in the air to explain "what goes up, must come down"...

Maybe you can help clear this up for me? Please keep in mind, I'm talking about the impacts themselves, NOT whether the planes crumpled, deformed or broke apart. I can fully understand the point of the video, showing that a plane hitting a solid object didn't deform, crumple or break apart upon impact, so therefore *that* law should still be in effect with a much larger, much heavier plane hitting a structure that isn't solid...

During the impact in the test plane video, we see the plane totally disintegrating, but we also see concrete dust and disintegrated debris flying up in the air. The impact of the plane into the tower shows the plane totally penetrating, yet NO flying glass of debris until AFTER total penetration and the fireball explodes back out.

Again... what same laws of physics apply to both of these impacts?

Thanks in advance, bolo... I have to run to the store now, so I'll check for your answer when I get back. I know we haven't always agreed in the past, but as I've said before.. I have given you your props a few times, and you do at least TRY to give intelligent answers to get someone to see things from your point of view...

PEACE!

Ghost