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DulceDecorum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 02:15 PM
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42. Saudi hijackers? Sez who??
Boston FBI?

WASHINGTON - Two of the Sept. 11, 2001, hijackers had a support network in the United States that included agents of the Saudi government, and the Bush administration and FBI blocked a congressional investigation into that relationship, Sen. Bob Graham wrote in a book to be released Tuesday.
The discovery of the financial backing of the two hijackers ''would draw a direct line between the terrorists and the government of Saudi Arabia, and trigger an attempted coverup by the Bush administration,'' the Florida Democrat wrote.
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/9584265.htm

The Official Lists appear to omit Arabs entirely.
http://www.911review.org/Wget/www.sierratimes.com/03/07/07/article_tro_flight77.htm
and many signs point to an inside job.

Others speculated that the date of 9/11 was chosen because on that date many New York fire and rescue vehicles were out of the state for training purposes. It was also the day of the New York City mayoral primary, which was postponed to a later date after the attacks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11,_2001_attacks

So far,
we have Riggs Bank -- and Unka Jonathan;
Major oil companies -- and Unka Dick;
the FBI -- with Edna Salvati-Mueller and the Kalico-Krisco-Kid aka AshKKKroft.
When the Saudis got mad at Bush, they pulled their money from the New York stock market and US financial institutions. They had absolutely no need to resort to physical violence against the only nation ever known to have dropped atomic bombs on civilian cities.

Washington's embrace of the Saudi royal family dates back to the era of Franklin Roosevelt. It has always been primarily about oil, but other factors have played a role, including Saudi investments in American Treasury bonds and the purchase of expensive American weapons systems. Since the 1990 Iraqi invasion of Kuwait, Saudi Arabia has given American military forces limited access to its bases.
http://www.hvk.org/articles/1001/160.html

ROBERT SIEGEL, host: One aspect of the Saudi-US relationship is financial. The Saudis bank much of their considerable national wealth in the United States in dollars. According to Youssef Ibrahim of the Council on Foreign Relations, the Saudis are so distressed by US Middle East policy right now that some bankers are making noises about taking Saudi deposits elsewhere.
Mr. YOUSSEF IBRAHIM (Council on Foreign Relations): When you think about Saudi Arabia, here is a statistic to ponder. There are 200 families in Saudi Arabia who control more than $200 million each. And if you do the calculation and the math, generally speaking, we estimate that there is between $550 billion to $650 billion of private Saudi money invested largely in the United States or United States-related instruments. In addition to this, of course, the Saudi government has invested in Treasury bonds something along the lines of $70 billion. And there is, of course, oil. Saudi Arabia does sit on one-third of the world's oil reserves. The other third, Iran and Iraq sit on it, and we are not speaking to either of them.
SIEGEL: And if, in fact, the Saudis were so upset with the US that they said, `We're going to first of all take our money elsewhere,' where would they take it?
Mr. IBRAHIM: That's a good question, and there aren't really too many alternatives, but I must say that the euro is evolving as a mighty alternative.
http://www.cfr.org/pub4640/youssef_michel_ibrahim/youssef_ibrahim_discusses_saudi_feelings_toward_the_us.php

This has really screwed things up for the grim weeper:
http://www.akst.com/cantor.htm

August 17, 2004: 5:17 PM EDT
Cantor and its eSpeed Inc. (ESPD: Research, Estimates) electronic bond brokerage unit are among the top intermediaries trading securities, especially U.S. Treasury bonds, between major Wall Street and European banks.
http://money.cnn.com/2004/08/17/news/midcaps/cantor.reut/

Hence the lawsuit:
Sept. 3 2004 (Bloomberg) -- Cantor Fitzgerald LP, the bond broker that lost about 60 percent of its New York employees in the 2001 World Trade Center terrorist attacks, filed a $7 billion lawsuit against Saudi Arabia, al-Qaeda and more than 50 Middle Eastern banks and foundations.
<snip>
The families of two men who died in the World Trade Center - - Timothy Soulas, a senior managing director at Cantor Fitzgerald Securities, and George Eric Smith, a senior business analyst at SunGard Asset Management -- are suing many of the same defendants in New York federal court.
In May 2003, U.S. District Judge Harold Baer ruled that Iraq aided Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda in the World Trade Center attack, and awarded $104 million to the families of Soulas and Smith.
http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000006&sid=aK7KqGCU_Ll0&refer=home

Incidentally, here is list of persons who were employed by Cantor Fitzgerald.
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/memorial/lists/by-employer/page12.html
This list only includes those whose last names began with the letter A or the letter B.
The list has been cross checked with the SSDI.
http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi

As marvelous a finding aid as it is, the SSDI does not include the names of everyone, even if they had a Social Security number (SNN). If relatives or the funeral home did not report the death to the Social Security Administration, or if the individual died before 1962 (when the records were computerized) then they probably will not appear in this database. The omission of an individual in this index does not indicate the person is still living. It simply means that there was no report of the person's death to Social Security Administration.
http://www.rootsweb.com/~rwguide/lesson10.htm
(V)=(Verified) Report verified with a family member or someone acting on behalf of a family member.
(P)=(Proof) Death Certificate Observed

Here are the results.

Andrew Anthony Abate Nothing found
Vincent Abate VINCENT P ABATE 23 May 1961-11 Sep 2001 (V)
Laurence Abel LAURENCE C ABEL 28 Oct 1963-11 Sep 2001 (V)
Paul Andrew Acquaviva Nothing found
Donald L. Adams Nothing found
Shannon Lewis Adams Nothing found
Lee Adler Nothing found
Daniel Thomas Afflitto DANIEL AFFLITTO 04 May 1969-11 Sep 2001 (V)
Alok Agarwal ALOK AGARWAL 03 May 1965-11 Sep 2001 (V)
David Agnes DAVID AGNES 10 Sep 1955-11 Sep 2001 (V)
Joanne Ahladiotis JOANNE M AHLADIOTIS 10 Jun 1974-11 Sep 2001 (P)
Andrew Alameno Nothing found
Edward L. Allegretto Nothing found
Joseph Ryan Allen JOSEPH R ALLEN 06 Feb 1962-11 Sep 2001 (P)
Christopher Edward Allingham Nothing found
Michael Rourke Andrews Nothing found
Laura Angilletta Nothing found
Lorraine D. Antigua Nothing found
Peter Paul Apollo Nothing found
Frank Thomas Aquilino Nothing found
Michael J. Armstrong Nothing found
Joshua Aron Nothing found
Michael Edward Asher Nothing found


John James Badagliacca Nothing found
Jane Ellen Baeszler Nothing found
Paul V. Barbaro Nothing found
Ivan Kyrillos Fairbanks Barbosa Nothing found
Colleen Ann Barkow Nothing found
Renee Barrett-Arjune Nothing found
Carlton W. Bartels Nothing found
Guy Barzvi GUY BARZVI 23 Feb 1972-11 Sep 2001 (V)
Inna Basina Nothing found
Alysia Basmajian Nothing found
W. David Bauer WALTER D BAUER 07 Mar 1956-11 Sep 2001 (V)
Larry I. Beck Nothing found
Maria Behr Nothing found
Debbie S. Bellows Nothing found
Bryan Craig Bennett Nothing found
Dominick J. Berardi DOMINICK BERARDI 07 Feb 1976-11 Sep 2001
Alvin Bergsohn ALVIN BERGSOHN 13 Jun 1953-11 Sep 2001 (P)
William Bernstein WILLIAM H BERNSTEIN 28 Dec 1958-11 Sep 2001
Timothy D. Betterly Nothing found
Bella Bhukhan Nothing found
Joshua David Birnbaum Nothing found
Balewa Albert Blackman Nothing found
Craig Michael Blass Nothing found
John Paul Bocchi Nothing found
Bruce Douglas (Chappy) Boehm Nothing found
Martin Boryczewski Nothing found
Thomas H. Bowden Jr Nothing found
Kimberly S. Bowers Nothing found
Shawn Edward Bowman Jr. Nothing found
Alfred Braca Nothing found
Michelle Renee Bratton MICHELLE R BRATTON 26 Apr 1978-11 Sep 2001 (P)
Edward A. Brennan III Nothing found
Frank H. Brennan Nothing found
Mark Francis Broderick Nothing found
Lloyd Brown Nothing found
Brandon J. Buchanan BRANDON J BUCHANAN 09 Apr 1977-11 Sep 2001 (V)
Dennis Buckley Nothing found
Patrick Joseph Buhse Nothing found
John E. Bulaga Jr. Nothing found
Stephen Bunin Nothing found
Matthew J. Burke Nothing found
Thomas Daniel Burke Nothing found
Keith James Burns KEITH BURNS 09 Feb 1962-11 Sep 2001 (V)
Milton Bustillo Nothing found

There are 24 more letters in the alphabet.
You are strongly encouraged to
cross-check the ENTIRE Cantor Fitzgerald employee list
against the SSDI database.

Much of SSA's disseminated actuarial, statistical, and analytical information is potentially influential because it has an impact on important public policies or important private-sector decisions relating to the Social Security program. Information products that are deemed to have a greater impact on public policies are subject to more extensive internal review and, where appropriate, review by external technical panels prior to release.
http://www.ssa.gov/515/ssaguidelines.html
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