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shaayecanaan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 12:48 AM
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74. You'll have to do better than that...
Edited on Thu Apr-03-08 12:49 AM by shaayecanaan
The partition of India was consented to by both Indian National Congress (representing the Hindus) and the Muslim League (representing the Muslims, obviously). OTOH, The partition of Palestine was agreed to by the Jews, but imposed upon the Muslims.

As others have pointed out, I think that you have misstated what happened in the Indian subcontinent in 1947.

The partition of India was consented to by both Hindus and Muslims. The partition of Palestine was not. That is a crucial distinction, and my statement above remains true in its entirety.

The Jews were returning to their homeland, so they weren't colonists.

Returning after a 2000-year hiatus doesnt make you any less a colonist. The ancestors of paleolithic Europeans migrated to Europe from North Africa as recently as 10,000 years ago. That didn't make them any less colonists when they set out to colonise North Africa.

Second, the Jews bought land and were attacked by the Arabs before they ever took Arab land by force.

About 7% of Israel proper was purchased from Arabs. The rest was taken by force. I don't know what percentage of lands were bought from native Americans, but it couldnt be much less than that.

Third, the Native Americans did not go to war with the Europeans to prevent the creation of the United States.

What a positively stupid statement. Exactly how could the United States of America come about other than by the murder and dispossession of native Americans? What were the native Americans fighting against, if not the establishment of a foreign state on their land?

Finally, it is clear that the Arabs started the fighting with the Jews. It is nowhere near as clear that the Native Americans attacked first in every instance.

When did the Arabs "start the fighting"? If its as clear as you suggest, you shouldnt have any trouble supplying those details.

The American conception of rights is stated in the Declaration of Independence where it talks about inalienable rights endowed by the Creator.

So the right to have an abortion, to possess an assault rifle, or to traffic alcoholic beverages across state borders without levy, isnt actually created by the Bill of Rights, but comes straight from the mouth of Yahweh? I must have missed Sunday school that day. You weren't homeschooled by any chance, were you?
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