Reply #51: Okay, but just a few things.

[Jackie97]

"LGF is clearly bigoted and I think for people to act as though they're both as bad as each other is very misleading."

I didn't really mean to say that they're both just as bad. What I said was that some pro-Israelis might find EI to be just as offensive. To be honest, even I as a pro-Palestinian wanted to stay clear of it for a while just because of its name alone. It really freaked me out to see a name like that on a website at first.

"How folk choose to try to demonise EI is their problem and not that of EI who I expect wouldn't give a toss about whether any of those sort of people listen to them."

What's the purpose of EI? Isn't it to educate people on what's going on over there? There's a pro-Israeli in this thread who just disowned LGF. Don't you think that this person might be willing to listen to EI if it just had a different name? I've talked to pro-Israelis who specifically said that they do often criticize Israel, but yet they feel too uncomfortable with certain types of pro-Palestinians because of their hostility towards Israel. Websites with names like Electronic "Infidata" probably come off as hostile to them. From where they might have originally had been willing to listen to the website, they won't now. I guess I'm trying to say that not all pro-Israelis unconditionally support Israeli policy and that they're not all bigots. A lot of them might be more willing to listen if they didn't feel such hostility towards Israel (which they often mistake for hostility towards them because many of them are Jews).


"I think for anyone to say that EI is bigoted and anti-semitic is showing their inability to cope with anything that doesn't conform to their own beliefs, and their inability to understand bias."

Sometimes, I think that's true. Sometimes though, I think that what I've said above is the real problem. It's not that EI is bigoted, it's that too many pro-Israeli Jews are taking sites like that the wrong way because of the "hostile" wording. They think that people like that hate them. They've been hated for over two thousand years, and it's hard for them to trust people now when they harshly criticize Israel. A while back, I talked a Jew on the internet into being against the war in Iraq. He might have even gotten into activism; I'm not sure. However, he was thinking that perhaps he shouldn't be a part of the anti-war movement because of the "hostility" towards Israel. He was afraid to be a part of any of that mess until I talked to him about it. When you look at the fact that Jews all around the world are being beaten up and killed because of Israeli policy, this doesn't make things any better. This only INCREASES the belief that people who criticize Israel are anti-semitic. I think that if we want to get pro-Israelis to consider our side, that maybe we need a gentler approach. They're just not listening to the current approaches.

"EI is biased, not bigoted, and as far as sources of info goes, it's probably more correct to put it on a level with that Israel-US.org site rather than to hate-filled garbage like Little Green Footballs..."

I used to run away from Israel-US.org too. LOL.