Reply #31: I know you mean intl law.

[Shaktimaan]

WHAT intl law are you speaking about. You clearly think that the west bank is strictly palestinian territory. I am asking you why. What law makes it exclusively Palestinian? Was it ALWAYS thus? Is it because the Palestinians managed to throw ALL the Jews out a few decades ago? Jews have always lived in these areas... when and how did they lose any claim to the entirety of the land? By what statute? By what law?

East Jerusalem contains the most important cultural and religious sites in all of Judaism. It contains the Jewish Quarter. And the city had a long term Jewish majority. So the Jews lost control of part of it for 19 years... and that makes it occupied? Why? It was never supposed to be part of Palestine. Why would you consider it occupied as opposed to disputed?

Gosh, maybe because it's their territory and just like all other people in the world, they have a right to self-determination?

What exactly makes it THEIR territory exclusively from a legal standpoint?

Israel has absolutely no right at all to the West Bank, no matter what you want to believe...

I never said I believed that. My point is that neither have an inherent right to ALL of anything. According to every agreement signed by them it must be negotiated. When and how did the green line become the border when everything official insists that it is not?

Huh? Did you mean to say East Jerusalem? West Jerusalem is part of Israel...

Nope. West Jerusalem, just like east jerusalem, was never allocated to either state, so most of the intl community doesn't consider it an official part of Israel. Which is why all of the embassies are in Tel Aviv. For all practical purposes it is part of Israel and the Palestinians have zero chance of getting any of it but that does not change the facts.

Can you point me to that statement?

Sure. In the original PLO charter.

Article 24. This Organization does not exercise any regional sovereignty over the West Bank in the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, on the Gaza Strip or the Himmah Area. Its activities will be on the national popular level in the liberational, organizational, political and financial fields.

I was making a point. Obviously this is not considered valid currently.