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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 12:44 PM
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94. Sure they did...
    This strategy of enlisting Europe’s virulent Jew-haters, and of aligning with the most vicious movements and regimes as financial and military patrons of a Zionist colony in Palestine, did not exclude the Nazis.

    The Zionist Federation of Germany sent a memorandum of support to the Nazi Party on June 21, 1933. In it the Federation noted:

    ... a rebirth of national life such as is occurring in German life ... must also take place in the Jewish national group.

    On the foundation of the new state which has established the principle of race, we wish so to fit our community into the total structure so that for us, too, in the sphere assigned to us, fruitful activity for the Fatherland is possible ...


    Far from repudiating this policy, the World Zionist Organization Congress in 1933 defeated a resolution calling for action against Hitler by a vote of 240 to 43.

    During this very Congress, Hitler announced a trade agreement with the WZO’s Anglo-Palestine Bank, breaking, thereby, the Jewish boycott of the Nazi regime at a time when the German economy was extremely vulnerable. It was the height of the Depression and people were wheeling barrels full of worthless German Marks. The World Zionist Organization broke the Jewish boycott and became the principal distributor of Nazi goods throughout the Middle East and Northern Europe. They established the Ha’avara, which was a bank in Palestine designed to receive monies from the German-Jewish bourgeoisie, with which sums Nazi goods were purchased in very substantial quantity.

    <snip>

    There was a common ground between the Nazis and the Zionists, expressed not merely in the proposal of Shamir’s National Military Organization to form a state in Palestine on a "national totalitarian basis." Vladimir Jabotinsky, in his last work, The Jewish War Front, (l940) wrote of his plans for the Palestinian people:

    Since we have this great moral authority for calmly envisaging the exodus of Arabs, we need not regard the possible departure of 900,000 with dismay. Herr Hitler has recently been enhancing the popularity of population transfer.

    Hidden History


The boycott he mentions actually began as a worldwide movement by the left, mostly socialist parties and trade unions, and was actually successful and a bother to the Nazis. But because it was seen as some 'commie' thing, it was mostly rejected by (come on down) American Jewish Congress who only made prefunctory support of it and then withdrew it's support.

You have to remember that the Nazis were actually admired in many quarters because much of what the Nazis did (like suppress and outlaw trade unions, disband socialists organizations, locking up dissidents, outlawing political parties, etc) was actually considered a good solution to the 'Great Depression'. Nazis anti-semitism was quite common in many ruling class circles (come on down Henry Ford and Charles Lindburgh) and it was based on the ubiqutious 19th century belief that much of the industrial and social unrest was being done by 'jews'. The rationale being that no real worker would follow such 'foreign' ideas and it was simply the 'christ killers' stirring up trouble. That is largely why the danger of the Nazis was routinely ignored -- their methods were admired and under the Nazis the German economy seemed to be doing well. Far from hating the Nazis in the 30s, many believed they were on the right track.

If you recall there was full audience at the 1936 Olympics...there was a boycott proposed, but it was uniformly rejected by the world's leaders who were more than happy to meet and greet the Nazi regime.

So even as far as Zionist jews -- they were no more enlightened than the anti-semites...they were wealthy and they also believed it was 'bad' jews who had simply lost their way. Jewish history, especially in the US, is always presented as some monolithic experience of 'victimhood' when there is, like any group of people over time, a class dimension and a context.

To Zionists, any justification will work.

    From the Lehi/Stern wikipedia:
    In 1940 and 1941, Lehi proposed intervening in the Second World War on the side of Nazi Germany to attain their help in expelling Britain from Mandate Palestine and to offer their assistance in "evacuating" the Jews of Europe arguing that "common interests could exist between the establishment of a new order in Europe in conformity with the German concept, and the true national aspirations of the Jewish people as they are embodied by the NMO (Lehi)." Late in 1940, Lehi representative Naftali Lubenchik was sent to Beirut where he met the German official Werner Otto von Hentig and delivered a letter from Lehi offering to "actively take part in the war on National Socialist Germany's side" in return for German support for "the establishment of the historic Jewish state" <1>. Von Hentig forwarded the letter to the German embassy in Ankara, but there is no record of any official response.
    Wikipedia


Interesting footnote to this episode -- for the longest time, even mentioning this, was considered no better than a 'Holocaust Denial' -- it was a monstrous lie tantamount to the Protocols.

But it turned out to be true when documents of the meeting turned up in an archive in Israel by a academic who wasn't even looking for it...it was a bombshell in Israel politics, but largely unmentioned elsewhere and so people are still brainwashed in believing that it's simply anti-semiticism.

That's why this post is very good at reminding people that NOT ALL JEWISH PEOPLE are either Zionists or even support Israel in it's present form.

You have to really ask yourself about Zionists and their rap inasmuch as when it comes to the Jewish people, no where, but in America and few others, have Jewish people been the safest, more successful than at anytime in their history -- but there are a whole bunch of Zionists who still insist that Jewish people are 'better off' in a shitty little desert under a constant state of war that hasn't done a damn fucking thing to promote the arts, culture or influence in the world to the scale of what the Jew has accomplished in America.

I can understand the incentive if your in Riga or Ethiopia, then you might actually improve your lot, but if your sitting pretty in the US -- why would you even consider 'moving to Israel' unless you are some sorta screwball utopian fanatic and why precisely are there some many Christians that are more than happy to send Jews there?

It's that part I have never gotten as to why the Zionists are so willing to hook up with classic ideologically inspired anti-semites like some fundamentalist Christians...until I discovered that these people had NO problem dealing with Nazis.
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