Reply #7: Liberal Israelis are in serious trouble- Israeli culture is at a turning..

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...point. I feel for the liberal Israelis who do not support the current conservative Sharonist government. They have known for a while now that their country was out of control. This is exacerbated by the fact that a number of Palestinian militant groups are also out of control. However, this is nothing to the situation they will find themselves in if their country attacks Iran.

I have seen no proof that Iran has nuclear weapons just as I have seen no proof that Iraq has them.

If Israel attacks Iran this is not only going to be ugly for Israel as a nation- it's also going to make life a hell of alot harder for liberals in Israel. Go check out the I/P forums for a wisp of a shadow of what the enmity is like between hawks and doves on this matter. In Israel on the street it is much much more pronounced.

There are a number of organizations in Israel like Gush Shalom, for instance, working for peace. These organizations are viewed through the same heretical lenses by the conservatives that our liberal organizations are viewed by the conservatives. Except you toss in things like the Holocaust which comes up frequently in the explosive internal politics of the nation and you have the makings of a civil war.

Their country is faced with many complex political issues which their current government has been "solving" with a heavy-handed militaristic approach. That approach is arguable in some sense. However on a macroscopic level Israel will find itself in deep deep shit both from the international community and from the struggle of warring political factions within itself should this come to pass.

History, even written in Israel, will judge the nation harshly for its behavior now. However, Israel which was created by an international community sympathetic to a people abused and nearly exterminated cannot afford to behave like their big-brother with deep pockets, the U.S., in this matter.

I'm not saying the Israelis can stop this. I fear there is little they can do if the Sharonist government decides to start military action. This is going to kill most political goodwill for the nation not only for goyim but for a significant portion of diasporic Jews. And therein lies the rub- if liberal diasporic Jews do not feel safe in Israel then the conservatives in Israel have effectively destroyed some of the hope that the creation of Israel intended to enshrine.

This is the chief reason why I currently detest the behavior of the Israeli government. They are destroying the spirit of Israel and changing it into something very few, Jew or gentile, are comfortable with.

PB