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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 11:40 AM
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91. Genocide---
Edited on Sun Oct-23-05 11:41 AM by Coastie for Truth
You posted "That doen't excuse the Israeli gov's genocide,"





"Genocide" is legally defined as

Article 2


    In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

    (a) Killing members of the group;

    (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;

    (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;

    (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;

    (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.


    "with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group" means "specific intent" and the legal term is "mens rea" ("malice and forethought") - failure to plead and prove "specific intent" is fatal to your argument. Remember - genocide is a International Crime Against Humanity - and customarily carries a death sentence. That's why these "little lawyer technicalities" like "specific intent" are important.

    Which specific acts of genocide do you mean and where is your evidence of "specific intent" sufficient to justify a "death sentence"?







Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide

Approved and proposed for signature and ratification or accession by
General Assembly resolution 260 A (III) of 9 December 1948
entry into force 12 January 1951, in accordance with article XIII
status of ratifications, reservations and declarations

The Contracting Parties,


    Having considered the declaration made by the General Assembly of the United Nations in its resolution 96 (I) dated 11 December 1946 that genocide is a crime under international law, contrary to the spirit and aims of the United Nations and condemned by the civilized world,

    Recognizing that at all periods of history genocide has inflicted great losses on humanity, and

    Being convinced that, in order to liberate mankind from such an odious scourge, international co-operation is required,

    Hereby agree as hereinafter provided:


Article 1


    The Contracting Parties confirm that genocide, whether committed in time of peace or in time of war, is a crime under international law which they undertake to prevent and to punish.


Article 2


    In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

    (a) Killing members of the group;

    (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;

    (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;

    (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;

    (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.


Article 3


    The following acts shall be punishable:

    (a) Genocide;

    (b) Conspiracy to commit genocide;

    (c) Direct and public incitement to commit genocide;

    (d ) Attempt to commit genocide;

    (e) Complicity in genocide.


Article 4


    Persons committing genocide or any of the other acts enumerated in article III shall be punished, whether they are constitutionally responsible rulers, public officials or private individuals.


Article 5


    The Contracting Parties undertake to enact, in accordance with their respective Constitutions, the necessary legislation to give effect to the provisions of the present Convention, and, in particular, to provide effective penalties for persons guilty of genocide or any of the other acts enumerated in article III.


Article 6


    Persons charged with genocide or any of the other acts enumerated in article III shall be tried by a competent tribunal of the State in the territory of which the act was committed, or by such international penal tribunal as may have jurisdiction with respect to those Contracting Parties which shall have accepted its jurisdiction.


Article 7


    Genocide and the other acts enumerated in article III shall not be considered as political crimes for the purpose of extradition.

    The Contracting Parties pledge themselves in such cases to grant extradition in accordance with their laws and treaties in force.


Article 8


    Any Contracting Party may call upon the competent organs of the United Nations to take such action under the Charter of the United Nations as they consider appropriate for the prevention and suppression of acts of genocide or any of the other acts enumerated in article III.


Article 9


    Disputes between the Contracting Parties relating to the interpretation, application or fulfilment of the present Convention, including those relating to the responsibility of a State for genocide or for any of the other acts enumerated in article III, shall be submitted to the International Court of Justice at the request of any of the parties to the dispute.


Article 10


    The present Convention, of which the Chinese, English, French, Russian and Spanish texts are equally authentic, shall bear the date of 9 December 1948.


Article 11


    The present Convention shall be open until 31 December 1949 for signature on behalf of any Member of the United Nations and of any nonmember State to which an invitation to sign has been addressed by the General Assembly.

    The present Convention shall be ratified, and the instruments of ratification shall be deposited with the Secretary-General of the United Nations.

    After 1 January 1950, the present Convention may be acceded to on behalf of any Member of the United Nations and of any non-member State which has received an invitation as aforesaid. Instruments of accession shall be deposited with the Secretary-General of the United Nations.


Article 12


    Any Contracting Party may at any time, by notification addressed to the Secretary-General of the United Nations, extend the application of the present Convention to all or any of the territories for the conduct of whose foreign relations that Contracting Party is responsible.


Article 13


    On the day when the first twenty instruments of ratification or accession have been deposited, the Secretary-General shall draw up a proces-verbal and transmit a copy thereof to each Member of the United Nations and to each of the non-member States contemplated in article 11.

    The present Convention shall come into force on the ninetieth day following the date of deposit of the twentieth instrument of ratification or accession.

    Any ratification or accession effected, subsequent to the latter date shall become effective on the ninetieth day following the deposit of the instrument of ratification or accession.


Article 14


    The present Convention shall remain in effect for a period of ten years as from the date of its coming into force.

    It shall thereafter remain in force for successive periods of five years for such Contracting Parties as have not denounced it at least six months before the expiration of the current period.

    Denunciation shall be effected by a written notification addressed to the Secretary-General of the United Nations.


Article 15


    If, as a result of denunciations, the number of Parties to the present Convention should become less than sixteen, the Convention shall cease to be in force as from the date on which the last of these denunciations shall become effective.


Article 16


    A request for the revision of the present Convention may be made at any time by any Contracting Party by means of a notification in writing addressed to the Secretary-General.

    The General Assembly shall decide upon the steps, if any, to be taken in respect of such request.


Article 17


    The Secretary-General of the United Nations shall notify all Members of the United Nations and the non-member States contemplated in article XI of the following:

    (a) Signatures, ratifications and accessions received in accordance with article 11;

    (b) Notifications received in accordance with article 12;

    (c) The date upon which the present Convention comes into force in accordance with article 13;

    (d) Denunciations received in accordance with article 14;

    (e) The abrogation of the Convention in accordance with article 15;

    (f) Notifications received in accordance with article 16.


Article 18


    The original of the present Convention shall be deposited in the archives of the United Nations.

    A certified copy of the Convention shall be transmitted to each Member of the United Nations and to each of the non-member States contemplated in article XI.


Article 19


    The present Convention shall be registered by the Secretary-General of the United Nations on the date of its coming into force.






Please try to be specific.

Oh yes, you also posted "Mediterranian ports are strategically important." so I will give you credit for having looked up the map accompanying the entry on the "Sykes-Picot Agreement" in Wikipedia and the frontis piece of Engdahl. It's a start, and I give you credit for following some of my many links.
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