Reply #39: not funny at all

[gejohnston]

Kleck has been accused of dishonesty.

The most thorough, objective research indicates a positive correlation between gun laws and reduced crime:

show where Kleck and other criminologists are not objective, thorough. You can't. Some of the people mentioned on the other side, not so much. Who they receive their grants from is always a good indicator.

Table 1 presents descriptive statistics on all variables. Twenty-four states as of 1990 did not have any gun control laws and regulations while 26 states had some type of regulation. The average firearm deaths per 100,000 population for states which had some type of gun control laws and regulations was 19.6 as opposed to 24.4 for those states which did not (p = 0.043)."

Every state had gun control laws of some type, even Vermont. That is before you get to the federal laws. When you look at the federal laws in place, they all have regulations.

Gun control reduces firearm deaths by 8%. And that's only in the short term.

They do? Show one country or state where it actually happened. At most, decreased suicide by firearm but other methods filled the vacuum keeping the rate the same.