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Glassunion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 01:01 PM
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6. Holy fuck! The article is so full of bullshit... And the post is a dupe.
Karen Wagner did not shut shit down. Let's take a look at the details in the article.

A bill is being proposed in Congress that would force states to allow Americans crossing state lines to carry their home state's gun laws with them, ignoring the gun laws in the visited state.
Actually the exact fucking opposite is true. When crossing a state line the individual will HAVE TO abide by that state's laws. Their home state's laws DO NOT follow the individual.

This bill would force local authorities to know every other state's laws and honor them when coming into contact with out-of-state residents.
No it does not. Local authorities have NOTHING more to do.

We don't allow visitors who may come from a state with a higher speed limit to ignore Illinois' speed limit. Imagine if we extended "home state" rules concerning divorce and medical marijuana to visitors to our state?
And the same would hold true for those carrying firearms... They WILL HAVE TO abide by the state laws of the state they are in.

This bill should not become law. Proponents of relaxed gun laws are usually staunch supporters of states' rights. They should be consistent. Each state should have the right to demand that all visitors obey its particular laws, unless they are superseded by federal laws.
I will use Karen's own words here... "Each state should have the right to demand that all visitors obey its particular laws, unless they are superseded by federal laws." If HR822 passes, this is EXACTLY what each state can expect.


On a side note... Illinois does not allow CCW so any other state's licenses would be no good in the state and visitor's CAN NOT carry their firearms as their license is no good there. The author should have don herself a favor and actually read the bill she is complaining about.

"Are we going to have any trouble defeating HR 822?" What's this "we" crap? And yes folks will have trouble defeating it considering that it can pass based on the number of co-sponsors alone.

"The proper comparison is what she pointed out that your home speed limits are not honored when you visit another state with your driver's license." If your statement matched the facts of the bill you would have a point. But since it does not, you do not. If another state has a law surrounding the carrying of a firearm, ALL visitors to that state will HAVE TO abide by that law. Their home state's laws are NOT in effect.

What I really like is that this is categorized as "News" and not "Opinion". It looks more like a letter to the editor IMO.
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