Reply #19: you and your verb tenses

[iverglas]

Perhaps you're pretending that I said something other than that the organizations and individuals in question held some views and advocated some policies that we today view as unacceptable, or that I didn't say they were complicated.

All I'm seeing at the link you sent me to are things like this:


You:
Still maintain they are in "the vanguard of progressive social policy"?

Me:
Since I never maintained any such thing, why would you ask me whether I still maintain it? I mean, other than to create the false impression in someone's mind that I did maintain it. Eh?
I'm sure you read what I said:
"yes, the WCTU was usually in the vanguard of progressive social policy"
Now, how are you on verb tenses?


Oh, and I gave you this, too, irrelevantly non-USish as it is:

http://theeyeopener.cfhosting.ca/storydetail.cfm?storyid=1651

The building across the street from Jorgenson Hall was built in 1921 by the WCTU, an influential, but unheralded, group in the fight for prohibition in Canada. It is now the home of Covenant House Toronto. More than 5,000 homeless young people seek comfort here every year. Counselling, health care, and educational and employment assistance give tenants the opportunity for "independent lives and a better future."

... The inhabitants of Covenant House have Letitia Youmans to thank for their comfortable surroundings.

Youmans, a stepmother of eight from Picton, Ont., organized the first Canadian local union of the WCTU in her hometown in 1974 {obviously 1874}. A year later, she started the Toronto local and 13 years later Youmans organized the Canadian National Union of the WCTU.

It was an organization that advocated for woman's rights. It fought to protect the rights of children and worked to reform society by promoting Christian moral values.

The WCTU helped found the Parent Teacher Association, promoted stiffer penalties for sexual crimes against women, fought for federal aid for education and demonstrated for world peace.

... "The WCTU effectively passed from the scene in the 1920s and their many accomplishments soon faded into the mist of the forgotten past, replacing this important historical record was the stereotypical view of the WCTU as a group of aging women rather irrelevantly railing against mainstream society and its mores," writes Cook.

The WCTU is still around. They donate to Covenant House Toronto, appreciative that their old headquarters provide a safe alternative to the streets.

And good atheist that I am, I won't be hearing voices raised against Christian moral values. I tend to live according to them myself. Love thy neighbour as thyself, you know?


Oh, and as for that year 2008 WCTU crap you flung around in that thread ...

Wasn't the Democratic Party the party of slavery at one time?

It changed, the WCTU changed, things change ... and you pretending that statements by the WCTU of 2008 reflect in any way on the WCTU of the last quarter of the 19th century and first quarter of the 20th ... well, what that reflects is either enormous ignorance or enormous intellectual dishonesty.