Reply #5: an ER doctor on a crusade and created shill study

[gejohnston]

Garen J. Wintemute of the University of California-Davis. Most likey his study was paid for by the Joyce Foundation and some anyomous doners like one of his half baked shill studies. One poster on your side tried to pass off a shill study written by a guy that writes diet books and was paid for by the John L. Olin Foundation of all places.

And compared with gun owners who kept their firearms at home unloaded and under lock and key, those who said they sometimes carry a loaded weapon for personal protection or who keep a weapon loaded and unlocked around the house were more likely to do things like drink and drive, and to engage in what substance abuse researchers call "binge drinking."

DUI is a crime. How did he get that many gun owners to admit to a crime that is a felony in some states? How was this study conducted?
One third are thought to have? That says, I am pulling numbers out of my ass.

the latest date for which the tally of firearms-related deaths is available - about one-third are thought to have involved alcohol. In 2007, 34.5 percent of suicide and homicide victims in the United States had alcohol in their systems at the time of death, and 60 percent of those were considered acutely intoxicated.

Given that most murders are committed by people with histories of violence and criminal records, this is not news. Most victims have criminal records as well. You are talking about a totally different demographic. As far as suicides go, the booze and the weapon were effects not cause of suicide.