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OneTenthofOnePercent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 12:16 PM
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38. "A badge makes all the difference"
Edited on Wed May-05-10 12:17 PM by OneTenthofOnePercent
These "average Americans" walking around with guns have been certified and are trained how to use them, they have qualified with them, and they have been taught the laws pertaining to carrying/using them. These "average Americans" demonstrate year after year a statistical propensity to be more law abiding than even certified police officers. If you could pull your head out of your ass and quit fantasizing about masturbation and gun love maybe you'd learn a thing or two. Your post demonstrates a lack of understanding of both police officer training and CCW training.

Continuous supervision... police officers are often working the beat or in squad cars alone. The only supervision you could count on would be during training. When they are out doing their job... the only self control keeps them from breaking laws.

Training... Are you familiar with police training? There is a helluva lot more cops do than guns and gun laws. Most of a cop's training is spent learning ordinances and regulations (very few of which are firearm related) and processes of duty. There is also a significant time spent preparing for and learning how conduct testimony in court of process legal documents and observations. Most officers I know quite literally shoot maybe twice a year to qualify. Most officers I know are particularly sub-par when it comes to weapons skill and firearm regulations... the only ones I've encountered who are well versed on the subject of guns are firearms enthusiasts OUTSIDE of being a law enforcement officer.

Cops receive more broad, but less indepth, training than CCWers because their role is multi-functional. They enforce all laws and perform duties purposefully intervening in situations requiring action or legal specific knowledge. CCWers do not try to fill the role of an officer. The only training a CCWer needs is how to competently operate a weapon (instruction & qualification, similar to LEO training), how to legally handle the weapon (storage, in vehicles, legal holsters...), and when its use warranted (ONLY in a life-threatening situation). This is very acute training and does not have to address extraneous variables because such information would likely be irrelevant to the role of a CCWer. A CCWer, for example, would never need to learn how to identify an illegal machine gun with reasonable suspicion or how to process a stolen firearm.

peer review... irrelevant. What a cop does is already done. What does peer review matter... it cannot change the outcome of a poor or possibly illegal decision. News flash... civilians have peer review too. It's call "trial by a jury of your peers".

visible presence... the benefit of visible presence is as debatable as open carry. An officer present can deescalate a situation by virtue that wrongdoers KNOW there is someone present

The only real difference between a CCWer and a cop is the broad spectrum training officers need and CCWers would never use anyways. There's nothing questionable about CCW... it is certainly a "regularized system" codified by law and certainly can provide "security" should one require the use of deadly force. The only questionable variable involved with is "justice" and a CCWers actions are scrutinized and the person is held to trial if their actions are indeed questionable... no different than an officer who doles out questionable "justice". CCWers are not above the law just as officers are not - I'm sorry, "A badge DOES NOT make all the difference".
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