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Edited on Wed Jun-17-09 10:59 AM by burrfoot
Doesn't the quotation below kind of answer everyone's question?
Iverglas has repeatedly been questioned about whether she would prefer the scenario where a woman is raped and no one dies. She's said that she does.
"I've been the woman in whatever scenario it was where nobody died. I almost did. But I didn't. And I prefer that scenario to one in which I killed somebody, ta."
Asked and answered.
I don't happen to agree with that, but then I am a male and therefore astronomically less likely to be the victim of a sexual assault, so I'll most likely never know from first hand experience. Therefore, I can't possibly even begin to assert that it's incorrect. By the same lights, Iverglas has never been the woman who shot a man who was attempting to assault her(as far as I know). It should stand to reason that, therefore, she cannot possibly begin to assert that that action is incorrect....but that's where this falls apart.
Iverglas, from what I've read, you do in fact assert that the choice of the gun owner/lethal defensive force user is wrong, and in doing so you make digs and jokes about those who disagree. That's what gets people fired up around here. Not that you believe what you believe, but that you feel the need to insult and denigrate people who believe differently.
If you want to try and convince people here that their beliefs are wrong, it might help to do so without throwing out accusations that any of the people who discuss this situation are harboring rape fantasies. That's not something that you could possibly know and it's a pretty disgusting thing to state without proof.
If you just enjoy the debate for the sake of the debate, well, then...keep on truckin'.
Edit: let me head off a potential semantic deflection here... I realize that Iverglas did not state implicitly that anyone here has rape fantasies. However, this quotation:
"Stories about women being sexually assaulted make everyone in this place real sick. That's why there are so many of them retailed hereabouts ... by men ..."
allows for that interpretation. So I will propose these two follow up questions: 1) Iverglas, do you in fact believe that some or all of the men here post on this topic and discuss it because of some unhealthy fascination with rape? 2) Do you have any evidence of this?
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