Reply #35: Leftist? Hilarious!

[thegreatwildebeest]

Nice. Your multitude of presumptions proves my point about the Left.

Hilarious. I am not evening of "the Left". While I don't pigeon hole myself in any particular brand of politics, I do basically agree with most of the ideas of POST-left insurrectionary anarchism, with dashes of anarcho primitivism thrown in for good measure. Buzz! Your wrong. I'm not even part of the left.

. You ignore empirical biology and frame the entire issue as a political/social issue, denying the larger context.

I frame it as a political/social issue because thats what the poster in question framed it as. Anyone who talks about "convincing" people to have less children is talking about a "political/social" issue, regardless of the biological imperatives. Moreover, as its safe to assume most people on this board are STATISTS and such programs would be administered by the state or some other form of social institution, it is safe to assume that the population control they speak of is "political".

Moreover, I don't buy this crap that many (developed, rich, yuppie) population control "Advocates" assert that population control is so ecologically imperative that we cannot even think or raise dissent about its possible administration, because it MUST BE DONE. It's not that I don't think population control isn't essential, or thats its not needed, but I'll be damned if I'm going to sit back and watch people completely ignore a shitload of problems, issues, and possibilities of coercion just because they deem it the most important thing on the block, and sacrosant.No one's getting off the hook for damn stupid ideas just because its "ecologically imperative".

Education is of course a key, as is improving the lives of the poor so they don't gravitate towards default mode.

Default mode? I was unaware that the poor were some sort of unthinking mass herd, popping out babies left and right, ecological consequences be damned.


I find your knee jerk assertions of fascism and racism insulting and narrow minded. You want to see all of that evil shit just keep ignoring overpopulation, many a sci-fi scenario is in the cards, Soyent Green, killing the old, the different, anyone not with the power base. If we keep acting like irrational monkeys then well, there you are.

I find your riduclous assumptions hilarious. I'm not "ignoring" overpopulation, and I'm not for any sort of Soylent Green-type scenario. As an anarchist I'm certainly not for propping up any sort of "power base", though I'm sure many population "advocates" wouldn't mind "culling" some developing countries various means, even though developed countries are the ones that set up the problem in the first place, and where a baby sucks up far more resource than ten or a hundred babies in a developing country.

Moreover, the scary fact is we ARE rational. Bureacracy and systematic control is nothing but full of "rationality" and rationalizations. Logic itself was invented by members of one of the most profligate and wasteful empires this world has ever seen. With such "rationality" I hope people in the future are irrational.