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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 06:57 AM
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42. You've provided nothing at all except unsupported misinformaiton
Your posted numbers omit the fact than nuclear power has received the lions share of non fossil energy subsidies for more than 50 years with no apparent payoff; for all the money we've spent we see a steadily escalating cost curve for nuclear. When we compare that to renewables we find that a small fraction of the total amount spent on nuclear has resulted in rapidly declining costs that for wind are already competitive with coal and rapidly declining costs for solar that are competitive with natural gas and will soon be less expensive than coal.

http://www.1366tech.com/cost-curve /

In other words: subsidies work to help the renewable technologies stand on their own but with nuclear they do nothing but prop up an industry that cannot be economically viable.

Of course the numbers you posted are the fission industry’s preferred way of framing the impact of subsidies however the "per kwh" numbers presented are merely a snapshot of a current year of production divided by that years subsidies for each power source (or at least, a very incomplete version of what is counted as a subsidy DOE since they omit most of the actual support in their accounting - see UCS report below).

The information they are trying to obscure is in this chart where you can see that the the fission energy subsidies have, over time, produced no results towards mainstreaming the economics of fission reactors os that future subsidies will not be required.
Full report: http://www.ucsusa.org/assets/documents/nuclear_power/nuclear_subsidies_report.pdf



This chart shows that when we look at lifetime subsidies against lifetime production of nuclear fission power the subsidies fission has received are worth more than the average value of the electricity produced. So while you claim fission subidies are $.00159 per KWh generated, this independent analyst specializing in the field of identifying and valuing subsidies puts the lifetime subsidies per kilowatt hour of fission electricity produced is closer to $0.05 /kwh.

That's right. We paid for every kilowatt of nuclear fission derived electricity twice, once through the utility and once through the tax man.

You won't hear that from the nuclear industry.
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