Reply #28: If that were true, you wouldn't be able to post that, would you?

[FBaggins]

Becayse isn't it really the same thing?



I don't know Mobus any better than I know you as far as the "authority" of either position, but his statement seems to me self evident.

It may "seem" that way... but it simply isn't. Many a weak argument begins in that fashion (his, not yours). Concentrate the discussion on the conclusions while using slight of hand to distract from the fact that they are based on assumptions that you glassed over as accepted fact.