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motocicleta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 09:33 PM
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19. The problem is, there is no solution WITH nuclear.
We are not going to fix any of this. We may mitigate a little, here and there, but our bed is made. Trying to make humans stop burning fossil fuels is like re-arranging deck chairs on the Titanic. It's over, folks. I know everybody is so excited about their pet solution, be it nuclear, PV, ethanol, wave, wind, what the fuck ever, but I am here to tell you: climate change is one storm in many! Add in water depletion, fish stocks, agriculture returns due to petroleum drawbacks, overpopulation - and bingo. We are in for a hell of a shitty ride, and I am losing patience with you who think we can fuck just a little more shit up to solve the whole thing.

Look, the carrying capacity of the Earth is, according to the most radical estimates I have seen, somewhere between 1 billion and 100 billion humans. My analysis of those estimates places the capacity much closer to 1 billion, and certainly less than the number we have right now. Why have we exceeded the carrying capacity? Because of petroleum. Not just gas for our cars, but fertilizer and automated agriculture. I don't think anyone from the "pro-nulear" gang thinks nukes or other alternatives will fill the gap as our population continues to increase and our petroleum supplies dwindle.

In this scenario, with the Earth likely giving us a plunging population curve (anyone recall the fox-hare curves from elementary school?), why on Earth would we build up an energy source which won't change the population curve dramatically AND which we have yet to solve the environmental problems for? Does anyone understand the Precautionary Principle?

Plus, while we have created too many peoples on the planet, and kept them alive just long enough to have huge problems with water and food supplies, we are also spending oodles of cash on weapons of mass destruction. How is this supposed to play out? We have bad, bad, bad problems with water supplies not just here in the good ol' USA but also in Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and China. Hmmm, where have I heard those names before? Two of the three have nuclear weapons, and the other is in the hotbed of instability in the world.


Why do you people insist that just ditching fossil fuels is going to fix our problems? It will not, and nothing will. Live with it, and try to figure out what will give your life meaning in that scenario, because it is on.
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