Reply #17: If there's no laws, there's no illegal channels

[sandnsea]

That's really funny. Gun advocates want some 'other' gun laws enforced; but when you want to make the gun law in the first place or ask for help getting 'good' gun laws, then you hear 'liberal gun controllers' and 'regulation creep'. (Creep, meaning that endless spiral) If gun owners had taken responsibility for their industry, we wouldn't have this problem. You still can, will you?

You can pretend we don't have the highest crime rate in the world if you want to, it's just not true. Cities with gun control laws are having crime rates go down. Areas without it, like the south, still have the highest crime rates. There's plenty of evidence to show that the availability of guns does impact crime rates. It just makes no sense to pretend we don't have a problem in this country in order to protect some illusory right to defend ourselves against the government.