Reply #11: okay, no bashing, but here goes

[sui generis]

some people like these untarnished images of benevolent perfection. They hated The Last Temptation of Christ too, remember?

Personally, if I could believe that he ever did really exist, I know with absolute certainty that he would have been a product of his times, divine connection or not. That means that he ate and shit and had to put his toga on one arm at a time like everyone else.

If he ate, he probably farted. The Japanese idea of Divine Wind probably doesn't have anything to do with this phenomenon. And if he crapped he probably wiped his ass, I hope.

Get real, if he was a real man, he woke up turgid most mornings and probably checked out more than a few asses in his time.

No, SOME PEOPLE want it to be black and white. They want Judas to be inherently evil, and yet love to make the claim that we have "free will". To make Judas a thinking person is anathema; it complicates things and is therefore wrong. To make Jesus a complex man with complex human desires is to remove his divinity, and they'll fight you to the death for that.

on edit: I don't really have a preoccupation with bodily functions; just using them to demonstrate that some of the "basest" things we do ourselves were not necessarily out of the ball park for him either.