Reply #70: I'm NOT in "their town"

[WildEyedLiberal]

I go to the University of Illinois. Last time I checked, the Cubs don't play in Champaign-Urbana.

What kind of "evidence" of an arrogant Cubs fan are you looking for? A picture of a frat rat in a Cubs hat being a douche? A specific name? I've said in several posts exactly what type of people I'm talking about, their general age, social situation, and mentality, and you refuse to believe me or anyone else in this thread, so fine. If you really need to believe that NO Cubs fan ever born has been arrogant or assholish, I guess go on believing that. But your disbelief doesn't make it untrue.

I'm not calling "you" arrogant, nor even the majority of all total Cubs fans. I invite you to come to a bar in my college town when a Cardinals-Cubs game is on TV, however, and if you still persist in claiming that there are NO arrogant Cubs fans anywhere, then I think you're just being willfully blind. As fishwax said, they're not arrogant about their team's success, obviously - although I've encountered more than a few people who were arrogant about the 2007 season because my God, for once the Cubs had a better record than the Cardinals. Any retort of "2006 World Series Champions" was met with "quit living in the past" - that's generally their response to any claims of the Cubs' history of suckitude. You have to bear in mind that these are mostly fans under 25 that I'm dealing with, so in our lifetimes, the Cardinals have been more successful than the Cubs, but not overwhelmingly. The long history of titles, etc doesn't really mean anything to them because until last year the last Cardinals title happened before we were born anyway- 1982 might as well be 1908 as far as it's relevant to us.

As both I and fishwax have explained, the arrogance has to do largely with a yuppie condescending mentality that manifests itself in sports fandoms as well. Often repeated by these fans is the notion that the Cubs are the only "real" team in Illinois and that any Illinoisan who is a fan of another team is some kind of "traitor" or a redneck or whatever. White Sox fans, in my general experience, don't make any such claims, although there aren't a lot of White Sox fans here so I am certainly not going to say that asshole White Sox fans don't exist. But IN MY EXPERIENCE going to college, the majority of jerk sports fans have been Cubs fans.