Reply #20: Sounds like you're trying to use massage as a sneaky way of

[Lydia Leftcoast]

getting into women's pants, despite your disclaimer. Or as a substitute for sex, which, frankly, is a bit creepy.

Sorry, we're wise to that trick.

Establish a relationship with us first. That means talking to us as if we're real people worthy of your time and respect. Talk to women you're NOT interested in sexually--that's less threatening. Get a reputation as one who enjoys talking to women. Don't be the guy who listens to all her problems--that will put you in the "friends only" category. Just keep it light and fun. Don't use idiotic "lines"--find your own unique way of kidding around.

Once you have a relationship established, THEN massage to your heart's content. And get massaged in return.