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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-03 01:20 PM
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36. well this is what I have to say about that
If you were to watch Clark's senate testimony, which you can do right here http://www.us4clark.com/mediaclips.html
go down till you find C-Span and see what Clark was saying at the beginning of this thing!

you would find that he was saying not to go, unless you take it to United Nations.....always said the same thing...

Dean lies when he says that Clark supported a resolution that is any different from what Dean supported. After all Clark was giving Dean foreign policy advise for months....so Dean knows exactly well that Clark and he had the same stance. But Dean has to lie in order to have himself stand alone. He doesn't even give Kucinich proper credit for being the only that "HAD" to vote and voted correctly. Dean didn't have to vote same as Clark. Difference is Dean is lying about what he said .....and accusing Clark of having waffled instead. That's Low...but some will say anything to get elected...I guess it's the old politician's game.


Remember that the resolution was passed in October of 2002.....

THIS IS WHAT CLARK ADVISED SWETT......BEFORE THE FINAL RESOLUTION HAD BEEN DECIDED:

http://www4.fosters.com/election_2002/oct/09/us_2cong_1009a.asp

Retired Gen. Clark supports Swett, raises concerns about Iraq policy
By STEPHEN FROTHINGHAM,Associated Press Writer
MANCHESTER, N.H. (AP) — Retired U.S. Army Gen. Wesley Clark said Wednesday he supports a congressional resolution that would give President Bush authority to use military force against Iraq, although he has reservations about the country's move toward war.
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The general said he had no doubt Iraq posed a threat, but questioned whether it was immediate and said the debate about a response has been conducted backward.
"Normally in a debate, you start with a problem and consider possible solutions. Instead, the president has presented us with a solution before the problem has been fully articulated," he said.
"As far as the information we have now shows, there are no nuclear warheads on missiles pointed to America," he said. "You can't wait 10 years to act, but there is time on our side."
He said al-Qaida remains the largest terrorist threat against the United States, and the connection ----between al-Qaida and Iraq is unclear.
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After endorsing Swett in Nashua, he visited Manchester West High School and reassured history students that the threat of terrorism should be kept in perspective.
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He said he shares the concerns he hears from many Americans about whether the country should act against Iraq without United Nations support and about how the United States will deal with Iraq after a successful invasion.
He also met in Portsmouth with the Democratic nominee in the 1st Congressional District, state Sen. Martha Fuller Clark.
A spokesman for Clark said the two were meeting to discuss foreign policy.




By February we were being told that the war was invitable.....

That Dean said something on February whatever....no one knew what was in Iraq...and still protests were happening against the war in October of 2002.

The fact is that Dean was saying in February, after the build up...that they could act unalaterely is the problem.

See How Clark was giving Dean advise all along, and Dean knew that Clark was straight up on his position:

http://query.nytimes.com/search/restricted/article?res=F20815FA385F0C728DDDA00894DB404482
Dean Asks General to Join Him in Primaries, Aides Say

By JODI WILGOREN (NYT) 520 words
BURLINGTON, Vt., Sept. 10 -- After months of friendly discussions about national security and other issues, Howard Dean, the former governor of Vermont, asked Gen. Wesley K. Clark to join his presidential campaign in some capacity if General Clark decided against making the run himself, aides for both men said tonight.
''The governor's told him repeatedly that he should run if he wants,'' Joe Trippi, Dr. Dean's campaign manager, said at the campaign headquarters here. ''I'm sure that along the way the governor's made clear that we want General Clark's support if he decides not to run for president. I assume every other candidate has done the same thing.''

AND IN LOOKS LIKE THEY WERE PRETTY MUCH IN THE SAME BOAT...RIGHT AROUND WHEN THE WAR WAS IN FULL BLAST...SO DEAN'S JUST NOT TELLING THE TRUTH:
Because, for a General, he did come off as being against this war....
As was reported here....on March 28, 2003....THIS WOULD BE SPRING...AND DURING THE WAR......SO EVEN THEN, HIS COMMENTARY WERE CRITICAL...AND HE WAS ROUNDLY CRITICIZED FOR IT.

http://www.spectator.org/article.asp?art_id=2003_3_27_22_49_18
Clark Tanks
By The Prowler
Published 3/28/2003 12:03:00 AM
DEAN-DUMB
So much for the Democrats' hope that retired General Wesley Clark was going to be their Colin Powell. "He's more Benedict Arnold than anything else, if you believe the mail we've been getting here," says the Democratic National Committee staffer who, only a month ago was touting Clark as his party's answer to the military star power aligned with Republicans.

"Any cachet he might have had he's pretty much pissed away on TV," says the staffer.

Since the outbreak of Operation Iraqi Freedom, Clark has been on CNN, bemoaning the Pentagon and Gen. Tommy Franks's strategy in the opening days of taking down Saddam. And while several other senior retired military men have made critical comments about the ongoing fighting -- Ret. Gen. Barry McCaffrey, another former Clinton-era official, has been quick to criticize during his stints on MSNBC --Clark has by far been the most vocal.

"It just looks really bad that he's knocking the troops and the way we're executing this war," says the DNC staffer. "He's taking hits everywhere, on TV, in the newspapers, on talk radio. People are furious at him. We can't fundraise off performances like this.
The only presidential candidate that would probably want to be seen with him is Howard Dean."


Prior to Clark's "tanking" on CNN, the DNC had Clark pegged for political stardom. He'd visited New Hampshire, and had hinted that he was interested in perhaps running for president as a Democrat. Now, the DNC isn't sure what they can do with the man who directed Bill Clinton's military machinations in Kosovo.




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