Reply #2: What is the mess...

[MrSoundAndVision]

is it self-governance in such a way that Alla is involved, in such a way that we will not understand at all as a Western nation.

I don't understand Democrats that say there is some good way to deal with this invasion other than to denounce it as imperialistic. What kind of party do these people want? A party which does whatever is necessary to justify going to war, including the power vacuum argument? Well the power vacuum argument is bunk. People rule themselves, whether government admits so or not. People die because of American indecision everyday.