Reply #40: They are not totally disengaged.

[msmcghee]

They are just not passionate about it - like us and the freepers. There's no point in railling aganst them for that. We need to be smarter about how we communicate to them. But we mostly need a message to communicate to them. That's a failure of our leadership.

They all still believe it is important enough to vote. Otherwise they'd be in that 30 percent or so that probably won't vote - and we are not concerned with them. It is those who will vote but are willing to go by whatever messages successfully get through to them on TV. Those are not intellectual messages - they are sound bytes and memorable images (memes) - like Bush* saying "Saddam's days are numbered" or the pictures of him with his "package" landing on the carrier.

The pukes (Karl Rove) are masters at this level of communication. Every appearance by Bush* (and all puke leadership for that matter) is designed to convey the consistent puke message (tax and spend dems, blame America dems, weak on defense dems as opposed to fatherly - wise protective Republicans, fiscally experienced republicans, Arab killer republicans willing to shoot first and let God sort them out).

We need to have a message and then articulate it symbolically - not intellectually - if we ever hope to reach those we call sheeple.

Added on edit: I think that's what Clinton was doing with his "third way" approach. Not many (especially sheeple) had any idea what it meant but it was memorable in that it implied a better way - beyond partisan politics - to solve our problems. That resonated with the sheeple and is one reason the pukes couldn't (remove him from office, thanks BeFree).

Our values of fairness, equality, wisely but not onerously regulated capitalism, protection of the environment etc. are good values - they are the values that most Americans agree with. We need to package those values - like Clinton did - and pay whatever it takes to get that message across.