Reply #45: Don't worry, I'm not getting insulted

[Goldmund]

Au contraire -- I love a spirited debate. :)

Even if we get everything we want in Traitorgate, that just means President Hastert.

I think you're dead wrong about that. We also get the practically eternal characterization of the GOP as a corrupt, traitorous bunch of criminal thugs. Any time in the future that a political candidate even wears the same deodorant as Bush did, he/she will be in political trouble. Neocon ideas themselves will be discredited. "Pre-emptive war", "moral values", "with us or against us" -- all that will be exposed as crookery.

Furthermore, you do know that even with Roberts there, Roe is still alive: 5-4.

Roe will NOT be alive once a liberal judge retires (also likely before 2009) and Bush puts in an anti-choicer. THAT will be the crucial judicial battle. If we come out of this beaten up and bruised, and with Roberts on the Bench -- as I said before, Bush will be able to appoint Ann fuckin' Coulter. Think a few steps in advance.

If we have a president Hastert, he'll have the political power of a garden plant. You think they would dare to push through a wingnut if Rove is in jail and Bush is impeached??