Reply #13: what I was trying to say is

[klyon]

It is possible to have ethical values and not be apart of any religion or even to believe in the existence of god.

If elected officials use god to promote war that does not effect the accuracy of my statement. When I see public officials using god and religion to further their goals I become very suspicious of them and I think we all should watch them very closely to see it they truly are religious or just play us.

I would never say people should not hold and practice religious values. I believe as you said they can be used to unethical ends. When government is promoting religious doctrines we have a big problem. I think it would be better for all concerned that religion remain separate from government for obvious reasons.

KL