Reply #122: You are most welcome.

[H2O Man]

This is an important topic. Many of the things we've been led to believe are simply no so. And other things we've never been exposed to are historical truth. I'd note that when Bill Moyers, who is indeed an intelligent man, wanted to learn more about the influence of the Iroquois, he traveled to Oren's home. Bill did a heck of a show with an interview with Oren on a series back around 1990.

Often it is not really complicated .... people are viewing many of the same "facts" .... but just like it makes sense for white folks to talk to black folk to understand the black experience, it really is okay to talk to Indians. It's safe. Bill survived it. Oren didn't hurt him. Bill even learned a great deal.

I would encourage people to read "A Basic Call to Consciousness." It's the Haudenosaunne position paper delivered to the Non-Governmental Organizations of the United Nations in Geneva, Switzerland, in September of 1977.

While I think DUers should read "sociologists," and learn to recognize them, I quote from the BCTC: "What follows are not the research products of psychiatrists, historians, or anthropologists. The papers which follow are he first authentic analyses of the modern world ever committed to writing by an official body of Native people."