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Christ was Socialist Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 01:57 PM
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59. As a lifelong sinner
I must say the concept is nothing but evangelical shibboleth.

Here is the verse they adduce:
"There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:
"The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.

"Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

"Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother’s womb, and be born?

"Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

"That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

"Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

"The wind bloweth where it list-eth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit."—John 3:1-8.


Now they think that it is Literal, but as it would break the laws of physics, they construe it to thier liking. Now lets take a look at the oppressed version.

Jesus said: When you see him who was not born of woman, fall down upon your faces and worship him; that one is your Father.
-Gospel of Thomas Saying 15 -

Now obviously My interpretation is that of knowledge. One must open thier minds, and drop everything they once thought was righteous and perfect, and be born again. Knowledge is power
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