Reply #3: Odd my family always said one has to save for their old age....

[izzie]

My father and his brothers are from the 1910-20 age and they all figured they would not get SS so saved for their own retirement. My father got very ill and had to retire early and did it on his own saving. I do not see that as a give me group at all.These are the men that started working in 1928 etc. My uncle could not go to college and he was top in his high school so took a job where he was trained for 2 or 3 years and then opened his own business with night jobs and wife working and built it into a very large business as my other uncle did and as my father did. these people helped their country.That guy is nuts.