Reply #37: Of course I have

[K-W]

We welcome anyone who will work with us to achieve our shared goals. That doesnt mean we welcome any progressive to come here and say whatever they want. If they wish to work on the shared goals that is fine.

There is a difference between making conservative a bad word and making conservatives a bad word. Conservatism is a blight on society, conservatives are in many cases just horribly misinformed or misled people.

I think khephra is just plum wrong. While that logic makes some superficial sense, I certainly dont think it works in reality. THe republican party got more conservative by moving more liberal. Bush ran on liberal positions. Gore didnt imitate Bush, Bush imitated Gore. Moving to the middle is a natural part of any national election, the whole point of the system is compromise. Khephra would be right if the republican party were openly radically conservative, but they arent. They are taking advantage of the people by pretending they are pro-enviroment, pro-healthcare, pro-workers etc. They are publically compassionate conservative, ie moderate, and privately radical conservative.

I am extremely liberal. I am extremely progressive. That does not mean that I dont recognize the importance of supporting a more moderate platform in order to gain the best possible results in our system.

That said I dont think there is any place on this forum for people who are attacking democratic ideas or democrats from any side of anything. Im just cautioing people not to villianize moderates along with conservatives and disruptors.