Reply #35: Baloney. "At Issue" is SCIENCE, and the SCIENTIFIC METHOD.

[Warren DeMontague]

That's why the state of Kansas had to take the crackheaded step of redefining science entirely, because they didn't like the results real science was giving them.

Nice to see you repeating Discovery Institute/Creationist/Religious Right talking points about evolution being merely a "theory". Surely, we're not going to have to get into that again, are we? Science is full of 'theories'. Relativity is a 'theory' even though it's been experimentally verified countless times. Electromagnetism is explained by 'theories'.

Evolution is known scientific fact. Deal with it or stay in denial, I don't care, but waving the word "theory" around doesn't change the truth.

Arguments that "darwinism" amounts to "materialism" which amounts to a "religion" are prima facie bullshit, as well. I can say that Darwinism doesn't take into account my belief that the Universe is actually an invisible shade of orange, and therefore it is "anti-orange". Darwinism, and by extension, 'materialism', doesn't take into account the truth of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, (r)Amen. Therefore it is inherently antipasto. (Get it? Ah, sometimes I crack myself up.)

Really, I would think How Science Works has been repeatedly explained to our erstwhile ID 'defenders' here enough times, I shouldn't have to go though it again, but here goes.

Science is predicated upon explanations for phenomena verifiable by experiment and a little thing called

PHYSICAL EVIDENCE.

...got it? That's science. That's how science works. If evidence turns up tomorrow for the blather and rantings of the shilling-for-the-Catholic-Church Discovery Institute waterheads (please.. lets have some more links to your "handful of scientists moving the ball forward". I'm sure everyone here would love to read about their impressive credentials) or any other "Creationist" gobbledygook, hey- whoopie- then they will become science. Until then, they belong in church, they belong in theology class- but they sure as shit don't belong in public school science class. If the "ID" crowd doesn't like it, tough, they should take their ball and go home. But they can't demand a wholesale redefinition of science just because it's not validating their belief in their particular pet deity.