Reply #6: Wes is wise--he's the only guy who has actually done what we need to do

[librechik]

in Iraq. He's well worth paying attention to.

Nevertheless, it is an undeniable truth that we have been tagged as occupiers and now have a resistance to deal with which will attack us as long as we are there. I admire his optimism, but I'm afraid it is too late to try a Kosovo-like strategy in Iraq. We trashed our moral authority to remake Iraq right at the beginning by bombing civilians, allowing looting, and then looting the country ourselves. Not to mention Abu Ghraib. WE never did anything like that in Kosovo.

We have to face he fact that we are screwed. We must try something else, but first of all we must remove our troops, who are only making things worse.

Murtha gave the Pukkkes a way out if only they were bright enough and humble enough to grab it: "We have achieved our goals in Iraq. Mission accomplished. We go now." see? Victory accomplished. If it isn't for oil and military presence, why do we stay?

Instead they argue the job must be finished. The job will NEVER be finished, if we let them use "whatever it takes" as the standard. What we did was not just a mistake, it was wrong, and morally corrupt. The situation is not equivalent to Kosovo in that sense, and we can't use the same strategy and achieve the same results.

The world must be clearly shown that the US will not long tolerate war criminals in its leadership. Rumsfeld, Cheney and Bush and co-conspirators must be confronted, vanquished and punished very publicly and soon, or we will all become complicit war criminals ourselves. That is the bitter pill we must swallow, or go down like South Africa. As long as we continue to appease them, we are accomplices.

I don't think there's a chance in hell of that happening. Can Wes help get that done?