Reply #83: I have some urls on this theory, but no time to put them all together...

[Peace Patriot]

...and post them right now. There were two news reports, in the Tehran Times, and in a Pakistan paper, March 2003, one about an Iraq Governing Council member who saw covert weapons unloaded at Basra, and the other from a Def Dept debriefer who heard the story about the "friendly fire" attack on a covert WMD convoy. These may be what David Kelly got onto (he had friends in Iraq). The Hutton report is useful (go to BBC), although it was a terrible coverup and white wash. That's where I found the item on Blair being informed of the "uncomfortable things" that Kelly "could say" (not HAD said), on July 7 (right in the middle of the Plame outing).

Thanks for posting this, "stop the bleeding." I do think there was a general treasonous intention to destroy the CIA as a provider of honest information to the gov't. I thought that's what they were up to with Niger and Wilson--and the purposes behind it were Cheney arms dealing and also just lying with impunity, for whatever nasty thing they wanted to do. I only recently figured out the WMD-planting plot was the other end of the Niger plot. Get the CIA to commit that there were no nukes (or other WMDs), then "find" the phony, planted ones, to discredit the CIA (and "justify" the war). They set up the expection that WMDs would be found, and intended to trump all the criticism, and insider and outsider turmoil about the war, with the "find" of WMDs (with Miller getting that "scoop"). And they got stopped--and tried to cover it up and are still doing so. That's the long and short of the theory.

Although the Bush Cartel now has control of vote tabulation, they still have to "spin" the news. It's a big country and a big world, with lots of thinking people in it, some of them even in our war profiteering corporate news monopolies. They have to keep up the illusions, the propaganda, the spin, the lies. They are not in complete control of everything--and certainly not of American public opinion. (I think our countrymen are pretty smart, actually--they just haven't got hold of the Diebold/ES&S thing yet.)

I'll come back to this thread later, when I've got urls in hand. I don't have a lot of time or the investigative tools to really go after it. I'm hoping to inspire investigators. I strongly suspect that this is IT--the story behind Treasongate (not the whole Bush Cartel story, of course, but the semi-visible pimple of the larger disease). And I would very much like to see David Kelly vindicated. He turned against the war. I think this is why. And he may have helped saved us all, or at least gave us the opportunity to save ourselves, our country and our democracy. Can you imagine what it would be like, politically, if they had SUCCEEDED in their phony "find" of planted WMDs? (Plame may also be a hero in this regard--and people we know not of. She may be in far too much danger--and she has babies--to reveal what she knows, and may also be honoring her pledge as a covert agent, to take what she knows to her death.)