Reply #54: Kerry didn't push Clinton for the Iraq War, didn't vote for the Iraq War

[Tinoire]

and is a ball of fire on the Downing Street Memo. Is that it in a nutshell?

I hope you're not implying that the rest of us were sleeping before 9-11. I would be really disappointed if you were especially since there's an entire archive on who was interested in what and which posters were astute enough to track the complicity of the neoliberal Democrats in this administration's crimes, and warn about where we were headed.

This war against Iraq has been ONE long 14 year oil-lusting war waged by both Democrats and Republicans. To pretend otherwise is morally inconsistent. Some of us have been protesting this war ever since Poppy Bush launched it, while Clinton continued it, and when the idiot Dauphin launched his obscene phase. One long war. You can't separate it into bad war/good war/bad war anymore than you can spin the WMD pretext. The 1998 Iraq position is no different that what we have today and that's one important reason the Left turned so much against "what-Downing-Street-Memo" Clinton that Al Gore didn't have a chance in hell. And Kucinich, well you know how much we both admire him but he's no Saint. He had NO business supporting the Iraq Liberation Act but unlike others, he caught on quick about all the lies and refused to support them- going as far as to publish his famous article in "The Progressive" under Clinton.

This war was decades in the making. People who followed it and who followed the neoliberal/conservative plan for domination of the world's oil resources didn't suddenly wake up on 9-11 crying "why do they hate us". We tried to sound the alarm and we closely watched the DLC, the neocons, the Trilateral Commission, the Bilderbergers and the Illuminati. We watched them so closely that we knew what a charade this was and put them all on alert- including Kerry- that if they enabled Bush to instensify this despicable war, if they gave Bush any support in his lies, we would toss them like trash. We knew. Kerry pretended not to know because he's a DLC/PPI neoliberal and was on board with their gameplan. It was following the letter Kerry signed that Clinton sent Sandy Berger, Madeline Albright, and Cohen to OSU to garner support for intensifying the war. And Progressives were there, protesting them and their lies and we're not going to shut up now about the complicity just because it embarrasses certain Democrats: http://www.pub.umich.edu/daily/1998/feb/02-19-98/news/news1.html


And you miss the main point about all the snarky comments being made all over. The point is that very few people are believing that Kerry, or any other politician who defied their constituency and voted for this war, ais going to do anything other than cover up. That goes for Feinstein, Lieberman, Daschle, McCain, well you have the list in the letter I posted. A letter which wasn't the only one he signed by the way.

It's been bad war/bad war/bad war from the very start- all three phases of it protested by the Left regardless of the bi-partisan pretexts used and the creative scenarios they were trying to frighten the world with. I live for the day we stop making excuses for them so we can replace the entire sorry lot and get this country on its post-empire feet.