Reply #28: No, my point is simple.

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<<You are wedded to your idea that what is popular is all that matters. I'm trying to say that isn't so.>>

From the standpoint of ethics or morality, no it cannot be determined by popular vote. Morals are not necessarily defined by the bible either.

From the standpoint of defining a group - YES. This is the purpose of group analysis. 1) Establish a group "all zzz" 2)survey the group. 3) analyze the data. If a majority of the individual members of the group exhibit common traits, then the statement "most zzz are yyy, or believe xxx". This common statistical practice occurs thousands of times a day. Valid conclusions can be drawn from this information.

<<You refuse to consider any other evidence or facts. Why that is, I do not know.>>

That is not true either. You have not shown me any facts.

<<I believe I've made my point, and I see yours quite clearly.>>

Well, the only point you have made is that a Wren's song can be drowned out by a jackhammer. Well, I can float on my back in a pool too. What does that have to do with anything?

You do not see my point either. My point is simple. Statistical analysis can provide accurate descriptions of any group.

It also could be true that it is you who is wedded to your ideas. I am only suggesting that the majority of the individuals within that group do not exhibit the character traits which you claim define the group. This is not saying that exceptions do not exist.

Show me some evidence beyond hypothetical scripture interpretations. I am not interested in what is supposed be, I am more interested in what really is.