Reply #15: I think it's clear

[Terran]

that our current mindless consumer society is just as bad in its way as whatever may result in the near future from ecological and economic collapse. There's a middle ground in there somewhere, and if it ever comes to pass it will likely only do so after a long long time of great suffering and mass death, the end of our civilization birthing a new one. If the happy medium is achieved, that'll be a good thing...but no one here will live to see it, and neither will our children. And in that interim, examples of human good and cooperation will be hard to find.