Reply #32: I'm not sure exactly what you are saying.

[TheFarseer]

When you talk about men having self control, you're talking about ideals not reality. If people had enough self control, anyone wanting an abortion would be VERY rare. Stories of NBA players fathering children with 10 different women disgust and sadden me, and stories of random losers that can't pay child support having children with 10 different women REALLY sadden and disgust me, but women have the children, and that's just reality. Personally, I'm a big fan of women who want to be sexually active taking birth control, and if that needs to be government funded, so be it. It's cheeper than welfare, prisons, etc for unwanted children.