Reply #61: Dude, you really need to back down. You're making a complete

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ass of yourself.

The penalties Dean's son faced are pretty typical for a first time offender who is a minor. I speak from personal experience. I was picked up for shoplifitng when I was 12. I never saw a judge, went to one counseling session, and that was it. I never got into any sort of trouble again and my record was cleared when I turned 18.

You've got a personal axe to grind with Dean and more particularly a few Dean supporters. Every candidate has supporters who act like asses. It doesn't mean the candidate themselves are anymore of an ass than you're demonstrating yourself to be. Hell, by your performance we could all equally assume that Clark was an ass.

I'm not a Dean supporter or a Clark supporter. I'm still evaluating all of the candidates, what they say vs. what they do/have done, and all I know at this point is that no matter who we put up against Bush, I'll vote for them, even that putz Lieberman.

If you want to influence people's opinions stop rising to the baiters, and start sticking to the facts. Most liberals are much more easily swayed by them than hyperbole.