Reply #14: For some time, I have read

[H2O Man]

admired, and respected your opinions on here. So I'll guess that the gross exaggeration of Jesus is not REALLY okay with you. (grin) And I'm hoping you wouldn't be trying to put those words in my mouth.
The human body is a machine. An organic machine, of course, but with no more conscious thought controlling it than my lawn-mower has. I will take credit for that thought, and am confident that no one here will be able to demonstrate that bush, cheney, etc have any more spiritual consciousness than does my lawn mower.
That being said: those people who pervert the message of Jesus today are not remarkably different that the crowds who didn't "get it" 2000 years ago. Again, take bush .... who recently paid his "respect" to the tomb of MKL (who died 36 years ago today) .... bush didn't "get it" either, or he wouldn't be at the tomb .... right?
I can't say for anyone else .... and I wouldn't say, even if I could, because people need to have the goodness of the truth take root within them! .... but for me, the concept of it being "okay" or not okay (what they do to the message of the Master) is not important. The effect of it is.