Reply #91: It's so weird this thing that keeps happening with the

[alaine]

"isms".

I'd want to know if this statement is offensive to Black and Middle-Eastern people (as the "puny bodies" thing wasn't lost on me); I'd want to hear someone say I'm in this group and this is a stereotype and it bothers me, or it's a stereotype but who gives a shit, there are a lot of other things that are more important. But I really don't care what white people think, because as a white person I have to agree with Moore, we are told to be nice and quiet. My only perspective on it is my point of view as a white person.

It's the same thing with sexism. Some men say they are not misogynist and then make sexist statements, and when they are called on it they say "I'm not sexist, I love women, there's something wrong with YOU, you're interpreting it wrong." If the woman replies, but I AM a woman and I am telling you this is sexist, then it goes round and round 'til you get to the point where it becomes obvious they only have love for voiceless plastic pin-ups, not 'ugly man-hating feminists who bitch all the time and never give them any pussy'.

The point for me is shutting the hell up long enough to let the group being referred to define what is offensive to them. Then we can learn not to repeat the same stupid mistakes. But if we fall into these stupid divisive freep wars we are really not getting anywhere but futher away from each other.