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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 08:32 AM
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10. "Even" the Isarelis? Interesting turn of pharse, that.
Some differences between the two situations include the fact that Eichmann was no longer an active combatant, as bin Laden was. WW2 was done, the war he had declared on us, not done. Big, big, difference. Also, Israel did not exist at the time of Eichmann's crimes, thus they were not committed against that State, Israel was not at war with Germany, and never had been.
The CIA knew where Eichmann was and did nothing, because the German National Security Advisor had in fact worked with Eichmann in the 'Jewish Affairs' Department.
The arrest mission was not legal. Israel denied for weeks that it was official, claiming volunteers had done it. Golda herself denied those agents were their own. Argentina took complaints to the UN. The Israelis had forged documents, license plates, and outside of all legal authority, took the presumed Eichmann by force, drugged him, and removed him from the country disguised as El Al Crew.
The only reason they got by with this is because of the level of Eichmann's crimes. They illegally entered another country, kidnapped, drugged and extradited a person they simply declared to be Eichmann. Nothing legal about it at all.
Had there been any supporters of Eichmann still active, the danger of reprisal would have figured into things they did not face State nor individual responses in Eichmann's support. His allies were all defeated, dead, jailed, or alternatively in high positions of US or German government, and thus no longer available to help Eichmann. Eichmann was working in a factory there, not hiding, and he'd been turned in by a resident whose daughter was friendly with the Eichmanns. None of this is similar to Bin Laden at all.
And of course, Israel has many times since used targeted killings of terrorists, in several parts of the world, targets far less intense than bin Laden. Why do you think they do that now? Do you think they'd handled Eichamann the same way in 2010 as they did in 1960?
And here's a corker for you. If Israel, today, did the same thing how would you react? Without legal standing, they enter a nation, kidnap and drug a resident, smuggle him without record to Israel, hold him up as 'the terrrorist' and put him on 'trial' on television. Would you approve at all? Would you expect others would? Who would believe them? Would Iran believe them? Hamas? Do you think they could smoothly try such a figure in public there today?
I think if Israel did that today, there would be huge public outcry, so I assume that today, they'd go in, kill the fucker and never bother telling anyone about it.
And my final question involves a home truth, if you can. The bin Laden trial. How excited would you be about your most beloved younger family member sitting on the jury, for months, in a published location, in public, in the room with Usama? On a scale of 1 to 10. Would it be worth their death to give a confessed mass murderer a show trial? Would you yourself sit in the courtroom on the jury?
Would Israel have put him on trial if the Reich still existed as sleeper cells, making threats and attacks as they could? Eichmann's war was 15 years over. He was planning nothing. He had no associates who were planning anything. His home had no security, no guns, no guards, he took the bus to his factory job each day.
There are precious few similarities between the two cases. Oh, and what is with 'Even the Israelis'? Are they so horrid to you that 'even they' makes a good term of art for you?
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