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DissedByBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 12:56 PM
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60. States have no rights
That's a right-wing statement they like to throw around.

States have powers. The only thing in this country with rights are people.

"GOP will support the candidate with the more rightwing record -- that's all."

True, but we're talking about the NRA. The NRA is single-issue. Any other positions are irrelevant to them. Republicans were PISSED when they supported Democrats over Republicans.

"And, no the race card isn't going to work on 2nd amendment -- though nice try!"

Except for the fact race is deeply ingrained in the issue.

The first successful gun-bans in the post-formation United States were against blacks. Black gun bans were passed and upheld extensively after Nat Turner's rebellion. The few early blanket attempts to infringe on the right were ruled to violate the rights of the (white) citizen.

The Dred Scott case showed how afraid they were of armed blacks, " would give to persons of the negro race ... the right to ... keep and carry arms wherever they went."

Note this also means that back in 1857 the Supreme Court considered the 2nd Amendment as meaning a citizen has a right to "keep and carry arms wherever."

Can't blame this on the Republicans. At this time they had barely been founded as an abolitionist party.

And the NRA didn't even exist yet, to be founded 14 years later by Union officers to remedy the poor marksmanship they saw of Civil War union soldiers.

"GOPs/NRA is for minority rights -- of course!!"

Well, the GOP was founded as the abolitionist party. The Democratic Party used to be pro-slavery, and the KKK was mainly Democrats. Things have changed quite a bit over the years.

Learn about Robert F. Williams. With the help of the NRA he founded an NRA-chartered rifle club and armed the members. This was the famous Black Armed Guard formed to protect blacks against KKK violence. It seriously pissed off the white powers that be, and violated numerous local "gun control" laws designed to prevent blacks from owning guns.

North Carolina still has one on the books today. When a state of emergency is declared nobody is to have guns in their possession outside of their property. This was meant to quell any black uprisings or demonstrations, as with such a declaration they could have a pretext to disarm blacks. It was never meant to apply to whites.
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