Reply #12: The Constitution and International Law still prevails.

[mschmal]

Bush's veto is not the final word.

Waterboarding is still unConstitutionally cruel and also a violation of International Law. It is a violation of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights of which the US is a signator. It is also violation of US Treaty obligations pursuant to the UN Convention Against Torture.

Remember under the Constitution Art. VI, Treaties of the US are the supreme law of the land.

Whether or not Waterboarding is specifically defined as torture or not is irrelevant as to whether it is illegal.

In other words, Waterboarding was already illegal. Even if the President states that Waterboarding is not cruel enough to violate the Constitution, the Courts could still disagree.

Consider the kind of country we live in.

The former president lied about receiving oral sex and was impeached.
The current president sanctions torture.

Mark