Reply #113: well said and fair

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but isn't that the point - ?

Being poor also leads to alcoholism, crime and drug abuse and while that may be true statistically, those are all still "for the most part" choices made and an exercise (or lack of) in personal responsibility. The real fact is that choices one makes that lead to obesity don't much care how much you make per year; it's just easy to get fat in today's processed food world unless you really just assess and cut out the junk and make an honest effort.

It's hard to comment on "what is" without someone taking it as judgement or getting defensive. I have had to drag myself out of my deathbed (exaggerating) to cook or my SO would have just eaten potato chips until I started stinking and the mortgage company called. (**if he reads this I am in SUCH deep doo doo** :rofl:) But if I complain he does get defensive. Some people absolutely won't address real nutrition for deeply ingrained reasons - his mother made entry into the kitchen by males a capital crime (so he says, I know better now :P), but I swear if I insisted on him cooking I would get a bowl of potato chips and a frozen corney dog for dinner, at least until I came to my senses.