Reply #49: and will you be even more ashamed when there is a civil war??

[Bacchus39]

we have stayed in Germany and Japan (whose populace had a similar fanaticism) for over 60 years. and now look at those countries.

do you think long term (decades) in Iraq would produce the same result??

by the way, I am not advocating this position but have heard it discussed.

I say a couple of more years to do all we can and then turn it over to the Iraquis. others like you say get out now, and others say indefinitely.

I am not optimistic.